Arrogance and Ignorance at Columbia University
Amazing what is being taught in todays Universities.
While I will not cast aspersion on all universities, I will narrow the focus to Columbia University and it's students who stormed the stage a speaker was speaking on, shouted him down, and turned riotous while proclaiming "Free Speech". Do you find anything ironic in this last part, that they took away the right of another to speak, and claimed it was free-speech on their part to do so?
I decided to go to the University website and do a little searching of my own, and came across the Columbia Daily Spectator:
Laura Brunts, the Deputy News Editor, has written several pieces concerning the riotous nature of the student protestors:
A few excerpts from her most recent articles:
First of all, I love the quote "To bring a man who has blood on his hands, almost. ... This is an organization that has been the cause of multiple hate crimes.", by the Chicano Caucus Political Chair. ALMOST. That doesn't mean he DOES, it means he doesn't, and using ALMOST just slants things more toward your point of view. I almost won the lottery last night....which means, I didn't win.
It sounds like the Republican group sent out invitations to multiple groups to learn more on the issue, inviting them to listen to what the man had to say. Instead as the Chicano Caucus political chair said, she took it as a slap in the face instead, not even bothering with possibly thinking there could be other points of view or other possibilities why they were invited.
Next article was addressing this was....
Ok, first thing, if there was outside supporters of Gilchrist, or College Republicans involved in the fighting, they should be punished. I will state that here and now, because all you do is help incite violence more if you participate in escalating the protestors riotous behaviour they came ready to behave with.
Yes, they came ready to behave in this behaviour, and they state it directly with, "We were aware that there was going to be a sign and we were going to occupy the stage," and "I don't feel the need to apologize or anything. We realize there are consequences for our actions."
They knowingly planned this ahead of time, this was not a spur of the moment "reaction" to Gilchrist's speaking, something in which they wouldn't allow in the first place, claiming their right to "freedom of speech" and yet denying Gilchrist the same right they claim for themselves. Not bothering to even listen to what he has to say, they react by rushing and taking over the stage without bothering to hear a differing point of view.
What a spectacular example of how they teach diversity in thought.
The latest story continues from the one above into this one today:
It is interesting that Columbia University had a multitude of video and digital cameras covering the event, and the invident, but they can't say whether the footage would be used in investigation?!?!
Why the hell not?
You have proof in your very hands of the who, what, when and where...and you don't know if you will use it?!?!
The most assinine comment I have heard in this whole mess is from the ignorant speaker who called out, "In Spanish please!", which would irk even myself, because as Gilchrist came back with, "one of the requirements of citizenship is that you speak English", I find his remark right on the mark. Do you enroll in a Unversity in America, and not speak english and demand of the speakers, the University staff, and students that they must speak in your language?
In Spanish please, indeed. [rolls eyes]
I find it completely rediculous that the Caucus comes out with a statement of "peace" and that the rushing fo the stage was not planned, and yet in the previous article their own members stated that it was planned to rush the stage and they understand the consequences of their actions!
One thing that should not have happened is this turning violent. I understand if they wanted to turn their backs on him, or even walk out, but to rush the stage, and to have the protest turn violent is criminal. It does state that a student was kicked in the head, but does not state if it was a protestor or supporter. Regardless of which it should never have happened.
We cannot know for certain who started what, but looking at some of the video footage you can definately see a stark contrast on who is acting what way...
To sum up, I think the protestors wanted it to escalate, because as Ben Becker, a member of ANSWER states:
"The moment I heard that Jim Gilchrist was coming, I thought it was a matter of conscience ... to express my outrage.
That you did Ben, good going showing that tolerance, diversity of thought and Freedom of Speech, will never get in the way of expressing your outrage.
Watch the video:
While I will not cast aspersion on all universities, I will narrow the focus to Columbia University and it's students who stormed the stage a speaker was speaking on, shouted him down, and turned riotous while proclaiming "Free Speech". Do you find anything ironic in this last part, that they took away the right of another to speak, and claimed it was free-speech on their part to do so?
I decided to go to the University website and do a little searching of my own, and came across the Columbia Daily Spectator:
About the Spectator
The Columbia Daily Spectator is the daily newspaper of Columbia University and Morningside Heights. We are the second-oldest college daily paper in the country and have been financially independent from the University since 1962. The newspaper is published five days a week during the academic year and weekly during the summer. With a circulation of 10,000, it is delivered to over 150 locations throughout Morningside Heights every day.
The Columbia Daily Spectator is written and edited by Columbia University undergraduates. We serve the communities of Columbia University and Morningside Heights as a forum for the expression of diverse viewpoints, a top source for in-depth and comprehensive news and features, and a rewarding extracurricular opportunity for our staff. Spectator is the primary source of campus and local news for more than 90 percent of our readership. For busy students, Spectator is the only consistent source of local news, and for the community at large, it is the only source for information about University events and services. Serving a community of over 60,000 students, faculty, administrators, and Morningside Heights residents, the Columbia Daily Spectator is the most widely-read newspaper in Morningside Heights and Harlem.
Laura Brunts, the Deputy News Editor, has written several pieces concerning the riotous nature of the student protestors:
A few excerpts from her most recent articles:
Chicanos Prep Minutemen Protest - 10/02/2006
Republicans Back Wednesday Night Invitation of Vigilantes
Starting last week, several campus groups began mobilizing to protest three members of the Minutemen, a vigilante group that patrols the U.S.-Mexico border for illegal immigrants, who will be speaking in Roone Arledge Auditorium Wednesday night. The three members, Jim Gilchrist, Marvin Stuart, and Jerome Corsi, were invited by the Columbia College Republicans.
"It [my reaction] was shock at first," Chicano Caucus political chair Karina Garcia, CC '08, said. "To bring a man who has blood on his hands, almost. ... This is an organization that has been the cause of multiple hate crimes. They are terrorizing these communities."
Last week, the College Republicans invited the Chicano Caucus and several other groups to co-sponsor the event.
"They never wanted us to co-sponsor-what it was, really, was a slap in the face. That's how I took it," Garcia said.
Chris Kulawik, CC '08 and president of the College Republicans, said he extended the opportunity to any group who may have had interest in the topic.
"The moment I heard that Jim Gilchrist was coming, I thought it was a matter of conscience ... to express my outrage that this racist right-wing vigilante group would be given the podium as if it was a legitimate voice," said Ben Becker, CC '05 and a member of the ANSWER coalition.
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But opponents don't see the Minutemen as the "community activists" that Kulawik describes. For many members of the Chicano Caucus and other protestors, illegal immigration and the actions of the Minutemen are personal issues.
"Illegal immigration is one thing, but what they're doing to human beings is something else," Yadira Alvarez, CC '10, said. "I'm Mexican, and it's not that I support illegal immigration, but America is a nation of immigrants. There is no way that someone can go against that."
Garcia said that many student groups have already agreed to co-sponsor the protest, including the Black Students Organization, Students for Environmental and Economic Justice, the Columbia College Democrats, Turath, and Students Promoting Education and Knowledge.
First of all, I love the quote "To bring a man who has blood on his hands, almost. ... This is an organization that has been the cause of multiple hate crimes.", by the Chicano Caucus Political Chair. ALMOST. That doesn't mean he DOES, it means he doesn't, and using ALMOST just slants things more toward your point of view. I almost won the lottery last night....which means, I didn't win.
It sounds like the Republican group sent out invitations to multiple groups to learn more on the issue, inviting them to listen to what the man had to say. Instead as the Chicano Caucus political chair said, she took it as a slap in the face instead, not even bothering with possibly thinking there could be other points of view or other possibilities why they were invited.
Next article was addressing this was....
Minuteman Protestors Rush Stage - 10/04/2006
ISO Banner Sparked Brawl Between Demonstrators, College Republicans
Protestors took the stage less than five minutes after Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, took the microphone in Roone Arledge Wednesday night, sparking a chaotic brawl involving more than 30 students, other attendees, and guests of the College Republicans.
Two members of the International Socialist Organization came on stage with a yellow banner reading, "There are no illegals," a signal to others to rush the stage. Gilchrist supporters clamored on stage, fighting with the protestors while Gilchrist and the other speakers were ushered out of the auditorium.
"We were aware that there was going to be a sign and we were going to occupy the stage," said a protestor who was on stage and asked to remain anonymous. "I don't feel the need to apologize or anything. We realize there are consequences for our actions."
Columbia security officers and presidential delegates, University employees who regulate events, broke up the brawl and closed the curtains, forcing everyone to leave the auditorium and eventually the building.
University spokesman Robert Hornsby, who was present at the event, said the presidential delegates would decide the disciplinary procedures for those involved. Participating students would be dealt with under Dean's Discipline, he said, but the response for those involved from outside Columbia was still undetermined.
Ok, first thing, if there was outside supporters of Gilchrist, or College Republicans involved in the fighting, they should be punished. I will state that here and now, because all you do is help incite violence more if you participate in escalating the protestors riotous behaviour they came ready to behave with.
Yes, they came ready to behave in this behaviour, and they state it directly with, "We were aware that there was going to be a sign and we were going to occupy the stage," and "I don't feel the need to apologize or anything. We realize there are consequences for our actions."
They knowingly planned this ahead of time, this was not a spur of the moment "reaction" to Gilchrist's speaking, something in which they wouldn't allow in the first place, claiming their right to "freedom of speech" and yet denying Gilchrist the same right they claim for themselves. Not bothering to even listen to what he has to say, they react by rushing and taking over the stage without bothering to hear a differing point of view.
What a spectacular example of how they teach diversity in thought.
The latest story continues from the one above into this one today:
Protestors Rush Minutemen - 10/05/2006
Gilchrist's Speech Cut Short by Ensuing Brawl
"The specific facts surrounding the incident are under active investigation by the University, so it is premature to make any official statement regarding facts that are yet to be determined," Hornsby told Spectator last night. There were dozens of video and digital cameras in the room, and much of this footage belongs to Columbia groups, but Hornsby would not say whether this footage would factor into the investigation.
The brawl was the culmination of audience dissent which grew louder and more aggressive.
Marvin Stewart, an ordained minister and member of the Minutemen board of directors, was the first speaker. Audience members shouted interjections throughout his address, calling Stewart, who is black, a hypocrite for supporting the Minutemen. Stewart responded by becoming louder and telling the audience that they did not know anything about government.
During a long pause, one audience member shouted, "In Spanish please!" which brought on an enormous wave of stomping feet and applause from the audience. Stewart countered that "one of the requirements of citizenship is that you speak English," before he was completely drowned out by the noise of the audience. Many attendees stood up and turned their backs on the speaker in protest and began chanting "wrap it up."
Eventually Gilchrist and Chris Kulawik, CC '08, president of the College Republicans and a Spectator columnist, called Stewart off the stage. "I clearly had the false assumption that I was at an Ivy League school," Kulawik said as he introduced the main speaker.
"Who's a racist now?" said Gilchrist, putting an arm around Stewart."I love the first amendment!" he shouted. "You're doing a great job, kids. I'm going to have more fun with this than with my prepared speech."
But before he could get much farther, two students stepped on stage with a banner. Student protestors said that the demonstration was meant to be peaceful, but when students with the Republicans and other Gilchrist supporters came on stage, the confrontation turned violent. One student was kicked in the head and bleeding, students reported.
The protestors occupying the stage included members of the ISO, the Chicano Caucus-which organized a protest beforehand on the Broadway sidewalk outside Lerner Hall-and some unaffiliated with either group. Neither student group officially sanctioned rushing the stage.
"We don't condone the actions of members on either side. Either people on stage who were holding up signs, or people who felt that their speaker was being threatened by people holding signs," said Adhemir Romero, CC '07 and president of the Chicano Caucus.
Romero released a statement late Wednesdy from the executive board of the Caucus. "We feel that it is important to discuss and bring to light important issues concerning immigration, though they should be done in a peaceful manner," it said. "While we do not agree with Mr. Gilchrist and his organization's views, we respect everyone's right to freedom of speech and regret that his opinion was not heard."
"I think this demonstrated the immaturity of the protestors," Kulawik said afterwards. "It came to physical violence and rushing the stage, which is never appropriate."
It is interesting that Columbia University had a multitude of video and digital cameras covering the event, and the invident, but they can't say whether the footage would be used in investigation?!?!
Why the hell not?
You have proof in your very hands of the who, what, when and where...and you don't know if you will use it?!?!
The most assinine comment I have heard in this whole mess is from the ignorant speaker who called out, "In Spanish please!", which would irk even myself, because as Gilchrist came back with, "one of the requirements of citizenship is that you speak English", I find his remark right on the mark. Do you enroll in a Unversity in America, and not speak english and demand of the speakers, the University staff, and students that they must speak in your language?
In Spanish please, indeed. [rolls eyes]
I find it completely rediculous that the Caucus comes out with a statement of "peace" and that the rushing fo the stage was not planned, and yet in the previous article their own members stated that it was planned to rush the stage and they understand the consequences of their actions!
"We were aware that there was going to be a sign and we were going to occupy the stage," said a protestor who was on stage and asked to remain anonymous. "I don't feel the need to apologize or anything. We realize there are consequences for our actions."
One thing that should not have happened is this turning violent. I understand if they wanted to turn their backs on him, or even walk out, but to rush the stage, and to have the protest turn violent is criminal. It does state that a student was kicked in the head, but does not state if it was a protestor or supporter. Regardless of which it should never have happened.
We cannot know for certain who started what, but looking at some of the video footage you can definately see a stark contrast on who is acting what way...
To sum up, I think the protestors wanted it to escalate, because as Ben Becker, a member of ANSWER states:
"The moment I heard that Jim Gilchrist was coming, I thought it was a matter of conscience ... to express my outrage.
That you did Ben, good going showing that tolerance, diversity of thought and Freedom of Speech, will never get in the way of expressing your outrage.
Watch the video: