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Tuesday, April 18, 2006

Pity Party Planned for Poor Killer Moussaoui

From the AP:

Moussaoui's Mental Health Questioned

The battle over Moussaoui's mental health has begun in earnest. A defense psychologist, Xavier Amador, testified Monday that Moussaoui is a paranoid schizophrenic who suffers from delusions.


Jurors must decide whether Moussaoui should be executed or serve life in prison without parole, their only options since Moussaoui has already pleaded guilty to conspiring with al-Qaida to fly planes into U.S. buildings.

One of Moussaoui's jail guards offered a few more details of Moussaoui's dream during testimony Monday. Deputy Vikas Ohri said Moussaoui has told him that after Bush frees him, he will "fly to London, write a book, make some money and go back to the mountains of Afghanistan and be al-Qaida."

He said he has also seen Moussaoui standing in front of a wall talking to himself. He asked Moussaoui about it once, and Moussaoui said he was practicing for court.

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Is this going to be the standard for when terrorists are brought before a court?
We will look at their history, they were beaten, they were degraded...
Why must we excuse their actions?

Dammit people it is time we stop playing games with terrorists, both in and out of the court rooms.

Questions on his mental health? Are you friggin kidding me?
He is a terrorist. He freely admits it.

Moussaoui has told him that after Bush frees him, he will "fly to London, write a book, make some money and go back to the mountains of Afghanistan and be al-Qaida."


He must be thinking of Clinton and being pardoned that way.

But if this stupidity of questioning his mental state, he may not be far from the truth with the rest of that quote, if they set this terrorists free.


From Reuters:

Moussaoui said mentally ill, mistreated as child

Defense lawyers trying to save Zacarias Moussaoui's life presented evidence on Monday that the September 11 conspirator was a schizophrenic who had an abusive father and an unsettled childhood.

Witnesses were brought forward to try to blunt the impact of Moussaoui's recent testimony on the first day back in court since he announced that he had no remorse for the September 11 hijackings and said he wished Americans more pain.

Moussaoui has pleaded guilty to six counts of conspiracy in connection with the September 11 attacks and his lawyers are trying to convince the 12-person jury not to sentence him to death.

Dr. Xavier Amador, a witness who is an expert in schizophrenia, said he had diagnosed Moussaoui with the disease and said several other experts had confirmed his opinion.

Several witnesses, including Moussaoui's two sisters, said he had a rough childhood and an abusive father who beat all four siblings and their mother.

"Zacarias ... suffered from not having been loved by his father," said his oldest sister, Nadia, in videotaped testimony. "We were terrorized."

Clinical social worker Jan Vogelsang said Moussaoui was in and out of orphanages for the first six years of his life, as his mother struggled to deal with her four children while trying to separate from her abusive husband.

As he grew up, Moussaoui was seen by his friends as outgoing and fun. Several childhood friends from France said Moussaoui enjoyed parties and going out at night as a teenager.

One friend, Gilles Cohen, said he and Moussaoui had often joked about how they could be friends even though Cohen was Jewish and Moussaoui was of Moroccan descent.

Cohen's testimony came shortly after Moussaoui yelled "death to the Jew" at a break. Moussaoui often yells out curses after the judge and jury leave the room and has frequently targeted Jews, including his lawyer Gerald Zerkin.

Moussaoui's friends said he changed after he went to London in 1992 to study international business and learn English. They said had become much more serious about Islam, had grown a beard and was less outgoing.

An imam at the mosque Moussaoui first attended in London said Moussaoui was initially pleasant and eager to learn about Islam but then got involved with fundamentalists.

In videotaped testimony, Brixton mosque chairman Abdul Haqq Baker said he eventually asked Moussaoui to leave the mosque once he got involved with more extremist Muslims. Baker said Moussaoui became disrespectful and he was concerned he might try to spread extremist views.

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Moussaoui said mentally ill, mistreated as child


Are we suppose to feel sorry for him?
Hell, I will give you a tip about me, I was mistreated as a child also, does this mean I can go around killing people?

See through this rediculous ploy.
Keep playing the the 9/11 tapes, show the pictures, REMIND the jury and the media this is what he is on trial for.


Several witnesses, including Moussaoui's two sisters, said he had a rough childhood and an abusive father who beat all four siblings and their mother.


How many people have been abused, have been beaten, and they do not become terrorists.


"Zacarias ... suffered from not having been loved by his father," said his oldest sister, Nadia, in videotaped testimony. "We were terrorized."


Nice way to try and equate why he became the way he is, because he was 'terrorized', so obviously the sane conclusion would be that he would become a terrorists because of it, right?


An imam at the mosque Moussaoui first attended in London said Moussaoui was initially pleasant and eager to learn about Islam but then got involved with fundamentalists.

In videotaped testimony, Brixton mosque chairman Abdul Haqq Baker said he eventually asked Moussaoui to leave the mosque once he got involved with more extremist Muslims. Baker said Moussaoui became disrespectful and he was concerned he might try to spread extremist views.


Does schizophrenia explain his clarity up to the point he got involved with extremist Muslims? It is only when he got involved with terrorists that suddenly he is mentally unstable or schizophrenic? I do not buy it.


So does this mean he is crazy also?
Maybe he was beaten as a child, or 'terrorized' as a child.
Maybe he is not responsible for his actions.

Incase you do not remember him:

A University graduate careened his silver Jeep Grand Cherokee through the Pit on Friday about noon, striking nine pedestrians and sending six to UNC Hospitals.


Michelle Malkin posts on it Here, Here, Here, and Here.

And how about these kids?

Does this mean they are mentally unstable?
They will not be responsible for their actions when they kill people?

But remember, they are only misunderstood.
If we TALK to them, try and UNDERSTAND why they are killing...


They do not want to talk.....


There is no reasoning with terrorists, and those that support them....

They seek your death.
They think it will grant them virgins and a place in heaven with your deaths.

Is there any reasoning with terrorists who think they will be rewarded with a place in heaven and 72 virgins if they kill you?


Proclaiming "I am al Qaeda," terrorist conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui disrupted the opening of his sentencing trial Monday and was tossed out of court as selection began for the jurors who will decide whether he lives or dies.

An often volatile figure in his proceedings, Moussaoui was removed from the courtroom four separate times. "This trial is a circus," he declared. "I want to be heard."

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Twice he declared his allegiance to Osama bin Laden's terrorist network. "I will take the stand to tell the whole truth about my involvement," he said.

"I am al Qaeda. They (his lawyers) are Americans. I'll have nothing to do with them."

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A French citizen, Zacarias Moussaoui, 37, pleaded guilty last April to six counts of conspiring with al Qaeda in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The only person convicted in a U.S. case in connection with the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, Moussaoui has said that al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden personally instructed him to fly an airplane into the White House. The convicted terrorist was arrested on immigration violations in late August 2001 and was in custody at the time of the attacks. On April 3, 2006 a jury recommended that Moussaoui be put to death.


Falls back into protecting our borders again, does it not?
He was arrested on IMMIGRATION violations.

How many other acts of violence, deaths, rapes, and other crimes can be averted if we just enforce Immigation Laws!

Could 9/11 have been averted if we did?



The testimony of Rosbrook, who was staying at a hotel near the twin towers that day, was the emotional peak of an emotional day. A day on which jurors saw people choosing to jump to their deaths rather than stay inside the trade center. Witness after witness -- children who lost their parents, police officers who lost their partners and a mayor who was worried he'd lost his city -- spoke of the jumping, the desperation.


"That was a man on fire as he fell through the canopy. Those are the remains of his body," Rosbrook testified in U.S. District Court in Alexandria.

A former New York City firefighter spoke of seeing his close friend die after he was hit by a falling person -- and he spoke of the body parts he saw on the streets as the towers were aflame. A New York City police officer broke down as he remembered his wife, also a police officer, who died evacuating people from the burning buildings.

Jurors even heard from the most famous New Yorker of all, former mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, who turned heads as he strode into the courtroom but offered the same heart-rending testimony as everyone else, recalling how he ran for his life as debris rained down around him.

"It was the worst experience of my life," Giuliani told the rapt jurors as he testified next to a scale model of the towers. "It meant the loss of friends I can't possibly replace. . . . Every day, I think about it; every day, a part of it comes back to me. It can be the people jumping, the body parts, seeing a little boy or girl at a funeral."

Through it all, family members of Sept. 11 victims remained mostly stoic as they sat in court, wiping away an occasional tear or silently shaking their heads. A member of Moussaoui's defense team had tears in her eyes. A court clerk placed several boxes of tissues in the jury box during a break in the proceedings.

Moussaoui, the only person convicted in the United States on charges stemming from Sept. 11, had a different reaction. If he wasn't looking bored or glancing at the clock, he was smiling -- especially when prosecutors played more than 10 video clips that showed the hijacked planes hitting the towers and the buildings burning and crashing to the ground.

And when his attorney offered condolences to Giuliani for "the many losses you have suffered," Moussaoui furiously shook his head.

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I do not think we should allow Moussaoui to become a martyr , he should rot in a maximum security prison with hardened criminals for the rest of his life.


Moussaoui Unfazed as 9/11 Attacks Detailed


Defendant Smiles as Prosecutor Describes Doomed Flight During Death Penalty Trial

The moment Raskin described the plane hitting the tower, Zacarias Moussaoui nodded, a smile creasing his lips. As he left the courtroom, where jurors will determine whether he lives or dies for his role in the attacks of that day, he pumped his fist and shouted, "God curse America!"

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Waiting for the Liberal 'feel good' left to come and protest in front of the court in support of Moussaoui:

It hasn't happened, but I think it is only a matter of time.


Others Blogging on this issue:
Michelle Malkin, ShrinkWrapped, The Counterterrorism Blog, Decision '08, The Anti-Jihad Pundit, The Uncooperative Blogger, Big Lizards, Black Five, Sicilian Notes, Tel-Chai Nation, Debbie Schussel